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A Memorial for Pyrrah Nikos by jswv A Memorial for Pyrrah Nikos by jswv
This has been the first time in a long time I was this affected by a character's death. The last time I remember being this devastated was over Dinobot in Transformers Beast Wars when I watched that show six years ago. 

I didn't cry when Newt died in Alien 3, I didn't cry when Han Solo died in The Force Awakens, I didn't cry when Quicksilver died in Age of Ultron, but I cried for Pyrrah.

Right now I am hoping and praying to god everyday that Pyrrah will come back in one form or another, as a vision/guardian angel to Jaune ala Joan of Arc (since he's based on her), or that Cinder merely transported her to Salem (since Amber survived the exact same arrow to the chest attack and Cinder seems to magically pull out her bow and arrow out of nowhere it's possible she just teleported Pyrrah.)

I love RWBY, it is sadly the best thing anime has to offer right now, but this move made me a little sick to the point where I've lost my appetite, have a little trouble sleeping and have decided to write a freaking fanfic about it.

I will still watch volume 4, 5, and beyond as long as they have Jaune still mourn over Pyrrah and not get another girl. I seriously hope Jaune doesn't end up with Ruby as that would be, in my opinion, a really shitty thing to do, a real dick move. Arkos is the only ship I can see with Jaune or Pyrrah as I think they're meant to be ala Sally and Jack. I mean it, if Juane ends up with Ruby I'll just pull a Michael Jones and rage quit. Well okay, if it is done well I'll still watch but I seriously think the only thing to do now is to have Jaune kill Cinder ala The Crow, how Eric killed Top Dollar and then have Jaune die from wounds and reunite with Pyrrah in whatever afterlife the world of Remnant has. Have Ruby and her team kill Salem since she's the big bad now, but let Jaune, Ren, and Nora have Cinder. And make it nice, slow, and painful.

Honestly despite Pyrrah's voice actor saying she's dead I'm not so sure. Rooster Teeth has pulled this before with Red vs Blue with Donut, Church, Tex, Sister, Carolina, Lopez, all being 'dead' and then bringing them back. Beside it's not like she'd just up and tell us if Pyrrah would comeback as soon as it happened. It's not like Leonard Nimoy told the thousands of grieving Star Trek fans that Spock would be back after he died in Wrath of Khan.

I know that Pyrrah's death is to motivate Ruby, Jaune and the others but I think they went too far. Pyrrah's death made me not give a shit about Yang's arm being cut off, it made me go "Yang, I will get you a new arm! You can be like a freaking Skywalker, Pyrrah's dead! You can get a new robo-arm but not a new life, get over it! Count your freaking blessings."

I know that's a bit mean spirited, but it's how I feel.

Anyways, if Jaune ends up with anyone besides Pyrrah I will go all Die Hard With a Vengeance on Miles and Kerry's asses.

My Fic: www.fanfiction.net/s/11787146/…
Music that I think fits the situation: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qDd9L…

EDIT: Okay, now that it's been a few months I can firmly say that i still feel it was a freaking idiotic and embarrassingly bad move on their part. I have gotten rid of any emotion factor and have looked at the situation as unbiased as I could and it's still a terrible idea that should be undone the moment they get the chance. It's Rooster Teeth's Dethroning Moment of Suck, without a doubt. 

SECOND EDIT: Read this: werealljerkshere.tumblr.com/po…
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:iconcrouchingallosaurus:
CrouchingAllosaurus Featured By Owner 3 days ago
"Anyways, if Jaune ends up with anyone besides Pyrrha I will go all Die Hard With a Vengeance on Miles and Kerry's asses."
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"Are you aiming for these people!?"
"No."
AAUG-
"Well, maybe that Miles."
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jswv Featured By Owner 3 days ago
That's brilliant, kudos for that.
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Kermitthefrog223456 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017
I wonder what Volume 5 is going to be like...it seems that there's still a bunch of loose ends.
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eathr349 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
The story was planned out long in advance, its far more realistic this way
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jswv Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
I don't really buy that, as claims like that usually turn out to be false, plus V3 felt very, very made up as they went along due to the forced entrance of the Maidens. Plus RWBY is supposed to be a big combination of fairy tales and anime, two things that tend to ignore realism.

I doesn't matter to me, as I say it doesn't make it any less awful, contrived, forced, needlessly cruel, insulting, and stupid.
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eathr349 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
How was V3 made up, it followed the chain of events; yang was going to lose her arm, her trailer told us that. I think you're to used to media having every character survive. They kept telling you things where going to go very bad since the get go.
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jswv Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
It feels like they threw in stuff like the Maidens (which they confirmed was an idea that Monty had after V2 and they weren't originally going to be in V3). It just feels like it to me.

I'm fine with characters I love dying, hell my favorite episode of any Transformers show ever is the one where my favorite character dies for good. I would be totally okay with it if it was done well and wasn't so forced and needlessly cruel, not to mention poorly written.

I was fine with things becoming darker, they just did it to quickly and in the process became cruel, mean-spirited, and down right nihilistic. 
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eathr349 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Its always been nihilistic, the music confirms that.
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jswv Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
I don't feel that's any excuse, and I don't care. I feel the show went too far when they killed Pyrrha, as not only was to way too dark after Yang's arm was a clear stopping point, but I feel like they could have handled it much better without having to kill her off at all. I mean, I literally would have been fine with everything they did but Pyrrha's death was just so cruel and forced that I couldn't stand to watch the show anymore and decided to just write my own story as a continuation, but it doesn't ignore V3. It helps that I haven't heard many good things about V4's story aside from Ren and Nora's backstory, as most of what I've heard (Qrow's bad luck Semblance for example) made me facepalm.

You'd probably think I wouldn't have done better, well here's how I would have changed it: Scrap the Pyrrha and Cinder fight, save it for later. Focus entirely on Cinder and Ozpin's fight, which is so magnificently powerful that it begins tearing up the tower, which gets Ruby and Weiss' attention. Jaune and Pyrrha run away, Pyrrha confesses her love for Jaune, but during the failed power transfer she felt Amber's pain and what Cinder did to her and wants to fight but Jaune talks her out of it, saying there is no destiny but what you make of it and that she shouldn't throw her life away for something foolish like that, and that he's suspected about her feelings for him for a while but didn't feel worthy after he was so oblivious to her but she assures him that he is and kisses him, signifying that they're together. Ruby goes up to the tower and sees Ozpin exhausted. Cinder nearly killed Ruby but Ozpin sacrifices himself to save her, redeeming himself for his failures and incompetence in V3, his death activates Ruby's eyes. Ruby joins Team JNPR in going to bring Cinder to justice, the end.

I know it was Monty's plan to kill her off, but I think that even if it did have merit they did it way too soon and way too cruel.
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eathr349 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
"were we born to fight and die?
sacrificed for one huge lie?
are we heroes keeping peace?
or are we weapons?
pointed at the enemy
so someone else can claim a victory?"

"feel it everywhere and you see it growing
enemies arise and the hate is flowing
shattering the moon and bloodying the sky
the machines of war will fuel both sides
and the greed will only grow more lies
farewell to days of peace cuz now it's time to die"

Who would you have them kill?
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jswv Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Ozpin. Like I said. He kinda deserves it for being an idiot.

Please do not fight me on this, a few months ago some crazy fan attacked me and demanded I take my own rant of Pyrrha's death off and when I refused he posted it to reddit (without my permission) and all of the hateful, insulting, belittling comments, with even a few who said I don't deserve to live for 'attacking Monty's legacy' and telling me I will never matter nearly drove me to suicide, which is the main reason I don't want to watch RWBY anymore.
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antivenom907 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
rooster teeth doesn't deserve the chance to bring her back. they killed her off for no reason, dismembered yang for no reason and changed the tone of the series for no reason. they haven't earned the right to do something happy. hell, they haven't earned the right for a 4th season!
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daisyperez0954 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Its like kikuo, never afraid to go to the deep end
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antivenom907 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What?
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daisyperez0954 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Kikuo is a lyricist for one of the vocaloids. His songs have dark stuff and is not afraid to write it in. That's why I compared it because of volume 3
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antivenom907 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ok?
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daisyperez0954 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Nevermind
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antivenom907 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ok....
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Patriot-112 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Ya know, reading the info you just put up here, I think you're right about the possibility of her coming back. 
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Warpath07 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
RIP
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glennfan2000 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2016
I believe this is the bargaining stage of grief.

Not that I blame you, I also went through all five stages.
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jswv Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2016
Nah, I've decided not to watch the show anymore in protest of this dumbass idea and will only watch again if they bring her back.

It was so bad I decided I could write better than Miles and Kerry and a lot of people have said that I do.

The best thing they could possibly do is to pull what Michael Crichton did with Ian Malcolm and just have her there the next season, have someone ask how she's still alive, say it kinda happened but they got her back and leave it at that. 
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zhugebeifong Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Arkos?
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Soundwave3591 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2016
Here's my take on it:

You covered how much of a pointless waste her death was in your Tumblr post, and i agree with you, so i got nothing to say about that.

but i've noticed a theme about Pyrrha's "resurrection:" she's either fully-flesh-and-blood back, or 100% never going to be seen again dead.

why not somewhere in the middle?

this is a world where souls manifest as bulletproof shields, for goodness' sake. she-could-end up with Neither.
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jswv Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2016
True, hell I read a fic where she possessed Cinder, killed her spirit, and took over her body. Anything could happen.

Though that would make for the weirdest reunion. 
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gigacanno Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2016
I hope she pulls a Donut
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jswv Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2016
After all the backlash they got over it it's not impossible that they'd bring her back to save face. Put on the safe side praying helps.
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gigacanno Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2016
It could be like a guardian spirit or reforms when beating Cinder
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BlakJakXXI Featured By Owner Edited Jul 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Never cared much for Pyrrha or Arkos. That aside, yeah, I would hope they don't just have Jaune move right on to Ruby either. Shipping interests aside, yeah, that'd come off as rather tasteless.
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I couldn't believe that Volume 3 of RWBY was much darker that Volume 2! RWBY got really dark too soon and too quickly, and Pyrrha, as a very important character, died too soon! She dies early in this entire series?! A REALLY IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN RWBY DIES THIS EARLY?! WHAT THE F***?! Really important characters are NOT supposed to die so early, and if they really have to die, their death should occur late in the series! F***ING S***! Besides, this is just one of the ways that they sabotaged RWBY by killing off Pyrrha! The other way things got horribly wrong with Pyrrha dead is that without Pyrrha, Team JNPR would cease to exist because Pyrrha's name makes up part of the name of JNPR, and without her, JNPR no longer makes any sense and becomes irrelevant to RWBY. How can RWBY make any sense with a very important team left incomplete, with a gap that cannot be filled? Team JNR does not make sense with the rules, story and setting of RWBY, and because of this, RWBY will begin to contradict with itself and make no sense as well! If RWBY no longer makes sense, then RWBY will fall to s*** because RWBY starts to go against its own rules and conventions and become hypocritical to itself! It's like a Christian who claims to be a deeply religious Christian, but yet has never gone to church or fit in with Christian beliefs whatsoever. It doesn't make sense with itself and becomes messy, glitchy and out of order, and becomes nothing more than an epic mountain-sized pile of bulls***! It starts becoming a malfunctioning gargantuan pile of scrap heap and stops being a working, lively dream come true!
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Patriot-112 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
You're not the only one who's pissed my friend. Even I believed they fucked up. Hopefully, Pyrrha will pull a Jon Snow for us.
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KtheShadowEmperor Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2016
Yeah, right. While Rooster Teeth got the structure of the transition to dark and serious right, and had the transition timed right, they got the severity horribly wrong!!! I agree that RWBY should become darker at Volume 3, but it got way shockingly darker than I thought! It got way too dark to early, at a time where nobody expected this level of darkness and seriousness at all! Pyrrha is given a role as an important deuteragonist in RWBY only to be killed off so freaking early?! What the f**k?! She was killed off so early that her death made her look like a disposable character who gets stuffed into the fridge! (Or to describe her death more accurately, stuffed into the oven or crematorium!) What a senseless waste of such a useful character!
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Patriot-112 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
And thus why Rooster Teeth needs new, COMPETENT, writers.
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KtheShadowEmperor Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016
Legend of Korra pulled of the same transition that is genuinely jarring and dark enough to shock the audience, with the Equalists pulling off a terrorist attack on the Pro-bending Arena in a way that is realistic and terrifying. That one scene shows how dangerous the Equalists really are and that nobody is safe from them, while not shocking the audience too much. What happened in Volume 3 happened so suddenly, so early and at such a terrifying magnitude and frequency that they shocked the audience to the point they would vomit their guts out and pass out like an alcoholic who drank too much booze. As a result, they basically daunted the audience with so many questions about what will happen next, and with consequences so terrifying that the audience feels overloaded, unable to comprehend what has happened.
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Patriot-112 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, that's exactly how I felt, and thought.
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Kaypocalypse Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2016
IM CRINGING SO DAMN HARD RIGHT NOW! IF I WAS IS RUBY ID TELEPORT THEN
KAMEHAME FALCON ONE PUNCH CINDER IN SUPER SAIYAN YANG SANS FORM THATS HOW F'N MAD I F'N AM
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NaokoElric2250 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 17, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not an Arkos shipper (I found it forced and without chemistry), but I'll still favourite this as I agree with the rest.

I like your other motivational posters too.
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jswv Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2016
I liked them together and I wanted to see Pyrrha get what she wanted.
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NaokoElric2250 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Well, I tend to dislike canon pairings in general, but I agree on the latter part.
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MarylandLovely Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't you mean rest in pieces? Too soon?
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MarylandLovely Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Troll 
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Azumadofu Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
Wander over Yonder: Don't feed the troll.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyf-W0_yH1A
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CrawlerEnder935 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016
I knew that Arkos would be canon... never knew it would be under such circumstances...
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DragonBlaze141 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016
Ehh look on the bright side it happned  proably never get the Norra x Ran
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CrawlerEnder935 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016
Yeah... RT! Let that ship be canon!!!
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Alpha-Squid Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
R.I.P. Pyrrha.
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:iconfatesealer1024:
amen brother.  I agree whole heartedly.  If you are looking for a story to help pass the feels, I have written something I hope should help.  See below if interested, it isnt done yet as it is a huge project for me, but it might help you, I know writing it has helped me:
www.fanfiction.net/s/11787682/…
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jswv Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2016
Thanks, I'll check it out. I'm also working on a fic that's in its second chapter now called Destiny of Remnant on both fanfiction and An Archive of Our Own. The first scene of the second chapter was worked on really hard to be both heart-wrenching and heart-warming as Jaune talks about losing Pyrrha to an OC. 

I think with how the fan reaction has been so far in regards to her death, lukewarm to negative, they might have to pull a Spock, Sherlock Holmes, Optimus Prime, Jason Voorhees to save face. 

Pyrrha's death has been the only character death I can ever think of that really rubbed me the wrong way, it made me shake my head in disappointment and I was okay with Alien 3 making me watch Newt's autopsy. 
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